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Ramsons review

Gordo finds himself amongst mythic proprietors and full flavours at Ramsons in that bloody town again

Date Published: 05/05/2009

“So, what do you think of those salad leaves, Sir?” asks some weird bloke who looks like he has just stepped out of Lord of the Rings.

“Actually, really good.”

Roast Lyme Park venison with potato dauphinoise, grilled black pudding and beetroot and chocolate sorbet was spectacular. A feast for the eyes that made love to the tastebuds. Carnoli rice risotto with ramsons (which is another name for wild garlic) and wild mushrooms. Clearly, loony tunes goes picking his own at dawn.

“You see,” carries on Bilbo’s great uncle, “It’s spraying them with the Buffalo shit that does it”.

Wow.

Gordo was waiting for the inevitable diatribe on local food sourcing, instead he got one on the produce Ramsons flies in from the market in Milan.

Bilbo’s great Uncle is Chris Johnson, the owner of Ramsons, a restaurant in Ramsbottom which has won accolade after accolade from amongst others, The Good Food Guide (which also awarded it the Readers' Restaurant of the Year not so long ago).

Chris has a different stance on buying produce than most. It simply has to be the best available. Don’t, for God’s sake, ask him about carrots, as he will start to explain why some taper down to a fine tip and others have a ‘bull nose’.

Chris is absolutely in love with all things Italian, as long as he considers it superior to local produce. His obsession is not only getting the best produce but also knowing the provenance right down to the fertiliser the farmer uses, hence the salad leaves coming from a particular valley in Northern Italy and being sprayed with buffalo poo. Apparently a certain Luigi Pirola at the market looks after him.

Gordo was open mouthed in admiration with the blinding quality of the leaves, the perfect little tomatoes that had been pumped full of tomato semtex along with the genius of a kitchen that had dressed it as well as any Michelin three star restaurant in South West France.

Mind you, Chris still uses locals for fish (Chris Neeve at Fleetwood Docks), asparagus (Tod and Barbara Bulmer at Kenyon Hall farm) and the dairy is by Tom Parkinson at Clifton’s farm

Gordo was second course in to a lunch that started out as a quick call in to see what all the fuss was about, and finished six weeks and three visits later. That first lunch re-aquainted him with a restaurant he had not visited for 27 years. Back then, you arrived at 7.30pm, there was no choice apart from the wine and Chris’s partner was cooking in the back. It was a good dinner.

The restaurant has evolved into a very high quality, quirky, comfortable and homely place that is a delight to sit in for a few hours. It relaxes you with (strangely homo-erotic) textile wall coverings, its brilliantly designed seats and the welcome from a young, local but talented front of house. Chris you can’t call young, but you can’t call him old either. He is keen to point out that there are as many female nipples on display as blokes on the wallpaper, but Gordo isn’t so sure. They are definitely in softer focus.

It helps to be a bit street-wise with the wine here. Gordo has been given a bollocking recently from the delightful Ray King, the renowned food critic who thinks Gordo isn’t giving wine a big enough story in these reviews.

He is, of course, right. But forgive Gordo, Ray. The loveable mentalist at Ramsons has the largest Italian list he has ever come across and every single one has been personally selected. Gordo is in awe. There is upwards of a quarter of a million quid’s-worth in his cellars and he has tried eight bottles over three visits. Gordo tells Chris what he wants to spend and he chooses. Every time he has been introduced to a wine completely new to him and each time he falls in love. It’s like watching the ladies walk the square in Turin at dusk on a warm Friday evening. Enchanting, each and every one.


The food is produced by a kitchen brigade who are every bit as passionate about what they do with Chris’s choice of ingredients as he is at choosing them. Over the three visits, and bear with me on prices for the moment, we felt let down with one dish (Chris Fielding-Martin of Village Hotels, monkfish a little dry?) and Gordo had cod which he found a little bland. Chris took the first piece of criticism on the chin; the second, not quite so.

“Delicate, Gordo, delicate, clearly something you are not acquainted with…” He may well have a point. In the meantime, Chris’s menus are structured vertically into five or six courses. Appetisers, first course, vegetable course: the aforementioned glorious jumble of leaves with a honey based dressing, or sublime, perfectly cooked vegetables that had cauliflower and broccoli, amongst others, dressed in a light, but tangy pesto. Then, main course, cheese plates (by Carole Faulkner at the Chester cheese shop) and sweet things.

Roast Lyme Park venison with potato dauphinoise, grilled black pudding and beetroot and chocolate sorbet was spectacular. A feast for the eyes that made love to the tastebuds. Carnoli rice risotto with ramsons (which is another name for wild garlic - hence the name of the town. Translated Ramsbottom means 'valley of the wild garlic') and wild mushrooms. Clearly, loony tunes goes picking his own at dawn. That creamy, slightly brown garlic aroma and mushrooms which had been rained on overnight stood up out of the perfect rice and shouted that they were proud to be British and lived for nothing other than Gordo’s pleasure. If only women were the same.

Seared Shetland scallops with pea puree and prosecco cream sauce was as good as the last time that Gordo ate in Reims, at Gerard Boyer’s champagne chateaux. The puddings are beguiling: they sit there and draw you in. Once you give in, you are in a particular kind of heaven that chocolate lovers well know. Very, very lush.

This is a jumble of a review, which is what Ramsons is: a jumble. Writing this piece on a spring Saturday evening, Gordo is wondering whether to call Chris and see if he has a walk in for two.

Chris’s kitchen team is headed up by Naseem as head chef. On the first lunch, Naseem was on holiday and Gordo met the number two, Babak, who is every bit as good as his boss. Andy, the pastry chef, looks about 16 and performs as if he has been working with Albert Roux for the past 60 years.

Ramsons pricing system is another jumble, working by grouping dishes. For example, a light lunch is £18, which includes an amuse bouche, a salad and any main course. A two course lunch is £24 and three course, £30. You then add additional dishes on at £6. There is a ten course tasting meal at £50. Then you get a loyalty discount thrown in every now and again at 25 per cent. Dinner pricing is bewildering, but runs from £36 to £70, go to the website listed below, Gordo is worn out trying to figure it all out. It is, however, great value when you actually do finish up with the bill.

This team would love a Michelin star, but will never get one. They are too good. Quirky, different, hugely entertaining and great cooks. No doubt the inspectors keep coming round and getting baffled. Lambs, reviewing Lions.


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Rating: 18.5/20
Breakdown: 8.5/10 food
5/5 service
5/5 ambience
Address: Ramsons Restaurant
18, Market Place
Ramsbottom
Bury
BL0 9HT
017068 25070
Click here for the website.

Venues are rated against the best examples of their kind: fine dining against the best fine dining, cafes against the best cafes. Following on from this the scores represent: 1-5 saw your leg off and eat it, 6-9 get a DVD, 10-11 if you must, 12-13 if you’re passing,14-15 worth a trip,16-17 very good, 17-18 exceptional, 19 pure quality, 20 perfect. More than 20: Gordo gets carried away













Anonymous says..“ Fabulous, so glad that Ramsons has finally been given the full Gordo working over. It is by far and away the best food for miles around and if you can keep Chris in check, a thoroughly enjoyable experience. Many a person has found themselves at the perils of one of Chris' diatribes about the wine though!!!!

Beefy Stew says..“ Gordo must have had the chicken parfait creme brulee, i did a few weeks ago and nearly cried, it's perfect. A lovely restaurant that makes the odd mistake but comes back fighting. A review by Gordo that is spot on; why don't you review the 'Hideaway' downstairs, thats a little gem as well.

howard says..“ Good point you made there about Chris's attitude being one of just getting the best. I was buying, again some lovely stuff, from Unicorn the right-on place in Chorlton. There are signs outside welcoming you with a nudge for you not to use your car next time but travel by bus, bike or foot (each option helpfully reinforced with a drawing) however once inside I spotted pumpkins for sale. Now even this urbanite knows that pumpkins in April don't come from round here and sure enough they are marked "Produce of Argentina". Am I alone in thinking that being asked to walk or bike in sits rather at odds with having the pumpkins flown in Business Class from Buenos Aries?

Steve says..“ Recently went mid-week for a beautiful 3 course meal. Wonderfully passionate guy and it shows in the food. The pre-dessert rhubarb fool was devine. If only it was closer, I'd be there every month and wouldn't have to stick to a glass of wine.

Avo says..“ I went there for a long lunch just before Xmas. Indeed Chris is an old eccentric but as long as his place keeps knocking out this standard of food, I don't care. He took the time to not only talk about the provenance of all his ingredients like he did with Gordo, but he showed us all the photographs on his computer of his suppliers and also took us down to the snug and showed off his wine cellar.

If you're from Manchester and want to have a drink wirth your meal without having to worry about driving, you can easily get the tram to Bury and a regular bus service runs to Ramsbottom.

G says..“ Fabulous to see Chris and the team getting the recognition they so fully deserve. I've been going for over 5 years now and the standard just gets better and better. Like one of the other contributors I also nearly cried with the chicken creme brulee, along with the roast pork ravioli. In fact, there has rarely been a visit where I haven't been left with memories of at least one course. Chris is one of a kind and all the better for it. As you say my definite advice would be name your price and let Chris choose the wine for you, then let him tell you tales of the producer, the local area and his visits to Italy... An absolute gem of a restaurant!

Yorkie says..“ I was there for Sunday lunch. The food was good but it would be nice to have more than half a carrot to share when they've taken the trouble to import it from Italy and know the ancestry of the growers. Meagre portions of veg left us wanting more. The amuse-bouche and the pre-dessert (pretentious, moi?) tasted good but were too small to help fill someone with a good appetite and no breakfast. Glad Gordo mentioned the strange decor. Male torso jigsaw on faux suede did seem a bit strange. As for Bilbo's great uncle, the more you spend on wine, the more he talks... and talks. Watch out for him virtually stuffing the cork up his nose. Overall, I'd say it's not overrated for quality but over-priced for value. I guess the mid-week lunch is probably best value but don't go if you're in a hurry. This is truly s l o w food. See Jonathan's review of his family Sunday lunch at the Lowry Hotel for a good value alternative.

Steve says..“ Yorkie, I would do but it's disappeared!!! Hot news off the press...the builders turned up in force at Panacea Alderley last week and it looks like there is some activity...wag central could be ressurected soon...watch this space.

Yorkie says..“ It's cunningly concealed under the name of the restaurant at The Lowry. Search for River Restaurant and you'll find it.

chandley1976 says..“ Great place, and makes me very proud to be a north Bury lad. Chris and the team are doing a superb job. No, they probably wont win a Michelin star there, but to be fair, its probably not what they are all about. Ramsons walks the line between fine dining and top quality rustic food, and yes, with a quirky edge. Michelin stars are not all about the quality of cooking, produce service and wine. Theres a massive snob factor atached to them, which is why we dont have any in Manchester, as people turn their noses up at this on the whole. Being quirky doesnt stop you from getting a star though. Ask Heston Blumenthal. Its just the whole style of things which doesnt fit the Michelin mould. House prices in Rammy would sky rocket if they got one though, as it would make the area even more trendy that its become as of late. Rammy is the new Chorlton? Chorlton wishes so! Even Marmelade has closed down now. So, if Rammy does get a star, lets hope that its not until I move home in a couple of years! Well done lads, and its about time that this place was recognised as being the best Italian in the north west, and in the top 5 best restaurants in Greater Manchester, full stop.

ben says..“ 4 of us went for a meal recently. Whilst the food was spectacular, we were waiting over 35 mins for our starter, then a long gap (maybe 20 mins), then an amuse bouche, then a huuuuge wait (40 mins+) before the main. We sat down at 8. Our main course arrived after 10pm! Needless to say my stomach had already resorted to cannibalism and eaten itself. During the long wait our table had put away 2 bottles of champagne and were contemplating running over the road to Buddha Lounge to be rescued by their fantastic Massaman Curry! The food, however, was very good quality and (mainly) locally sourced, well prepared although some portions were a little meagre! Then came the bill.... good job we'd had all that champagne and we had difficulty standing, because at that point sitting down was a requirement.... Food: 8.5/10 Service: 2/5 Ambience: 3.5/5 overall 14/20

Rammygirl says..“ Fantastic that Ramsbottom is getting the praise it deserves although I hope it doesn’t become a victim of its own success and end up like the number of over priced, pretentious south Manchester towns I try to avoid

Ray says..“ Looks great, and I really should try it. I haven't seen many comments by Ray King, and I am wondering if you might have picked up a point by me about four weeks ago about a greater overview of wines? I'm not Ray King though! (I do a lot of wine tastings though....and some here know who I am!) Should I change my name to avoid confusion?

Pedro1874 says..“ Thanks once again to Mancon and Ramsons' Chris Johnson and Chef Naseem for a memorable 8 course tasting menu. Sheer class. Get in before Nov 30th folks, or you will be kicking yourself for missing this wonderful 3* Michelin quality food for a very reasonable price.

Venues are rated against the best examples of their kind: fine dining against the best fine dining, cafes against the best cafes. Following on from this the scores represent: 1-5 saw your leg off and eat it, 6-9 get a DVD, 10-11 if you must, 12-13 if you?re passing,14-15 worth a trip,16-17 very good, 17-18 exceptional, 19 pure quality, 20 perfect. More than 20: Gordo gets carried away

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